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Installing Debian Linux 3.0r1 (Woody)
Installing and using
Debian Linux, my story
!
I hope these notes may help other people who
are trying to install Debian Linux and maybe I'll get some help myself
....
Reading Computer Shopper one
evening I decided
to try out Debian Linux. I've had nearly 20 years experience with
computers,
starting with a Spectrum +2, then Atari ST (great machine) and then
because
of business onto PC's. I'd dabbled with Corel Linux, easy install but
sold
the machine before I had a chance to play with it!, and Mandrake, which
I
gave up on because of problems with the display flickering.
Anyway, Computer
Shopper persuaded me Debian
was the way to go, so onto the net to buy it …. £9.95 for a set
of 7 CD's, that's the sort of price I like.
Ordered Debian Linux
3.0r1 7 CD set from
www.buylinuxnow.co.uk waited 2 weeks, nothing, emailed them, waited
another
week, nothing, cancelled order.
Decided to try and
download the CD image using
JigDo (a sort of download manager) as no broadband here yet. JigDo
allows
you to download Debian CD images in small parts, automatically
combining
all the bits into a CD image. My Freeserve connection cuts off every 2
hours,
but that doesn't matter, just start JigDo again and it starts up were
it
left off the last time.
JigDo
Wouldn't work at all on
first machine. Tried
it on another, worked first time. Both Windows 98. Maybe a line in
autoexec.bat
or config.sys ?
I use half an ISDN line
for the net, 64k, it
took nearly 2 weeks to download CD1 and then got a message Arrgh
couldn't
download 39 files ….. etc. etc. seemed to be the package developer
folder
and files.
Tried a few other
mirrors as suggested, no good.
Downloaded ISOMagic, and
extracted the JigDo
temp ISO file to a folder. Tried burning a CD from this, no good.
Searched
Google for "Arrgh 39 files" found someone had similar probs and
mentioned
a mirror that fixed him up. Tried this mirror and downloaded some more
files,
ending up with 4 files missing, in the end downloaded the files
manually
with IE into a folder and told Jigdo to look for them in there, and
success!,
CD1 downloaded successfully !
Burn CD
Using Nero and a x8
CDRW drive. Tried 2 disks
at x8 speed, disks would only come up as an audio disk. Tried at x4
speed
CD burnt Ok. I've had problems with other disks, I think my burner
maybe
on its way out.
Install Debian
My test machine was a
HP Vectra VL PIII 450Mhz
with 128Mb ram, 30Gb disk, CDRW, Matrox MGA-G200 AGP display card,
Crystal
SoundFusion sound card.
I read some of the
Debian install notes and see
its important to work out number and size of partitions. My disk is
30Gb
in size, and I eventually decide on 3 partitions, Windows 98 12Gb -
Linux
4Gb - Linux Swap 400Mb with some spare Gb's for future use (I can,
hopefully,
utilise later with partition magic or something)
I already had Windows
98 on the machine so knew
the type of display and sound cards.
Can't boot to the CD so
use a Win98 boot floppy
with cdrom driver, get into the CD install folder and type boot to
start
install.
All seems to install
Ok, but when I type startx
to start xwindows it fails with an error. Search Google for error and
find
could be something to do with fbdev.
Edited the
etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file to change
usefbdev from 'true' to 'false' re-started and KDE starts up Ok!
Had to install Windows
98 which worked fine but
Lilo has disappeared, can't get at Linux.
Hunted round Google for
help, found that you
just boot with linux boot floppy and then type lilo, which gets lilo
working
again. Wasn't quite that easy, the computer booted to the floppy then
went
into the KDE desktop. I ran the console, typed lilo, rebooted, nothing,
black
screen with a flashing cursor.
Booted to floppy, KDE
etc. again and played around
with some lilo commands, finding that lilo -P fix did the trick. I
start
up the PC, Lilo appears and I can choose Windows 98 or Linux, great
stuff.
I've now got a machine that
will dual boot into
either Windows 98 or Debian Linux. Time to start playing ….
Conclusions so far.
Installation - Debian
Linux has a lot of catching
up to do with Windows. In my opinion, your average PC user would not be
able
to install Debian, because of the prior knowledge needed for
partitions,
etc. etc.
Partitions - if you
want to dual-boot Windows
and Linux, load Windows first. If you load it after Linux it will
overwrite
Lilo the boot manager. If Windows is already loaded use PartitionMagic
to
create about 2Gb of free space. Also if Windows is loaded first you
will
know all the hardware details, type of display, sound, modem etc.
If you mess up the
Linux install just install
it again, it overwrites all the previous Linux stuff but leaves Windows
as
it was.
Trying do get access to
the internet. I can't
find a dialer or internet connection setup. KDE help says use KPPP, but
this
isn't installed, can't find it in Package Manager either. Also tried
WVDIAL
from shell and run command, doesn't seem to do anything.
While I'm messing
around with Package manager
I find I can't access the cdrom drive. Eventually find that I have to
use
the shell and type 'mount /cdrom' to get KDE to see the cdrom drive and
'eject
/cdrom' to eject the disk, need to look into this some more, can't be
right.
Now I can see the cdrom drive I
check the Debian
CD1 for KPPP. The .deb files are in /pool/main/... there are a few KDE
files
but not KPPP. Can't find KPPP on KDE's website, find it in the end on
Debian's
website.
COMMENT - I installed
Windows 98, plus IE6, Acrobat,
Winzip, internet etc in half an hour. So far I have spent over a week
installing
Debian and still am not on the net. I feel the way some of my customers
feel
with their windows problems, frustrated that I can't see what to do to
fix
things, I'm getting there but its hard work.
Put KPPP on a cdr and
have installed it into
KDE. Next to try and set up a connection and get online.
Trying to get KPPP
working with Yahoo Online
(Pay-as-you-go 08456091350 username=yahoo password=yahoo) Its easy to
set
up in Windows you don't need to register just enter settings and away
you
go.
Entered the info into
KPPP, try to connect and
get a message about authentication failed and secret passwords. Tried
various
different settings, still no good, won't connect. Search Google, and
find
reference to etc/ppp/options file change auth to noauth. Try connecting
again,
success, we are connected to the net.
Next problem, Konqueror
cannot access any websites,
returns Unknown host. Found a few tips on the net but still no good.
Ping
doesn't work either, unknown host.. Spend hours searching net for clues
to
this, nothing so far.
I've discovered I can
add a CDrom icon to the
desktop by right clicking, add newetc. that makes life easier.
Hunting around on
Google I find references to
ifconfig when users are having problems with the net. I try playing
around
with this and find that if I type 'ifconfig sl0 down' I can then access
the
net, marvellous. sl0 seems to be an interface referenced by by
ifconfig,
turn it off and the net works.
Have sold the HP Vectra
VL base unit - now installing
on a ....
Compaq Deskpro C500/810
Notes
Use bf24 kernel
Choose sound card device driver audio_i810 on installation
Say no to frame buffer
Didn't use tasksel or dpkg, used apt-get install x-window-system kdm
kde
Install KSCD to play audio CD's and KPPP internet dialer
To cure sound server
error for non-root user
chmod 666 /dev/sound /dev/dsp /dev/mixer you may not need the
/dev/sound
bit
Printer - connected up
an old HP670c printer
and tried to get it working with CUPS and a PPD driver I'd found on
www.linuxprinters.org - nothing at all to start with. Downloaded
foomatic.rip
and foomatic-wrapper and installed as instructions, still nothing.
Changed
the driver to HP Deskjet series and it all works.
Not sure why or how!
all seems a bit complicated
compared to installing a windows printer driver. I'll probably come
back
to this, try and work out how to do it properly.
KPPP - I've been
searching the net to try and
find how to setup KPPP to dial on demand as per windows. It doesn't
look
like its possible.
COMMENT - Some basic
things that KDE should sort
- internet dial on demand - add printer - add fonts - auto power down -
change
desktop resolution, colours - sort out the mount/unmount cdrom/floppy
thing.
One install I set the res to
800*600. An easy
way to add a higher res is to edit the /etc/X11/XF86config-4 file and
add
"1024 x 768"
Come to a bit of a halt
on this machine. Its
too far away from a phone socket, so I've lost interest for a while.
Installed Debian on
exactly the same machine
(Compaq 500) on a network at work, and it all goes Ok.
The network card is an
Intel 82559 and I choose
the EEPRO100 device driver which all works fine.
Everything works Ok,
KDE starts up, sound Ok,
internet Ok.
Things to look at -
printer is an HP Laserjet
1000, might have problems here.
Shut down - KDE crashes
on Logout. If I do an
init 0 from shell it shuts down Ok. The exact same machine at home
without
a network shuts down fine. Is this where the problem lies ?
Just tried Knoppix, it
installed onto the hard
drive with no problems and seems to work fine. Knoppix can be run off
the
CD or installed to disk, so is a great way to try out Debian Linux.
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